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From: Manuel Date Added: 9/6/2012 11:05:20 AM

2 For one who speaks in a tgnoue does not speak to men but to God; for no one [a]understands, but [b]in his spirit he speaks mysteriesSo as you say if the bible elsewhere says something different there is a definite problem. You mentioned Italics, firstly the phrase one who speaks in a tgnoue does not speak to men but to God; has no italics, this is the key phrase in question.The italics which is the a and b in the text above I believe, are referencing the word understands which could mean hears and in his spirit which could mean by the Spirit. Neither of which cause a problem to what I am saying.In verse 6 Paul says But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking in tgnoues, what will I profit you unless I speak to you either by way of revelation or of knowledge or of prophecy or of teaching?There is no prophet in speaking to people in toungues unless ots by way of revelation, knowledge, prophecy or teaching which are alternative spiritual gifts.So moving onto Acts 2.6In context here is verse 5 to 11 with parts I will comment on in Bold.5 Now there were Jews living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6 And when this sound occurred, the crowd came together, and were bewildered because each one of them was hearing them speak in his own [g]language. 7 They were amazed and astonished, saying, “[h]Why, are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 And how is it that we each hear them in our own [i]language [j]to which we were born? 9 Parthians and Medes and Elamites, and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and [k] Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene, and [l] visitors from Rome, both Jews and [m] proselytes, 11 Cretans and Arabs—we hear them in our own tgnoues speaking of the mighty deeds of God.” 12 And they all continued in amazement and great perplexity, saying to one another, “What does this mean?” 13 But others were mocking and saying, “ They are full of [n]sweet wine.”Firstly there is no indication they are preaching the gospel and nowhere does it say they are speaking to people, only that they are speaking of God. Today there are ocassions where people have heard someone speaking in toungues and recognised what they were saying, even though the person was using the spiritual gift given to them by God and did not know what they were saying, however they were directing what they were saying to God usually in the context of a worship meeting. This is consistent with all of the biblical data on this. Interestingly in the early days of Mormonism this appears to be how tgnoues was done as well, In the Myesteries of Godliness a History of Mormon temple worship by faithful LDS member David John Beerger numerous times it refers to speaking and tgnoues and prophecying occuring in early LDS Temple meetings. This is consistent with the bible and inconsistent with the today LDS notion of speaking in tgnoues being for missionaries to communicate with people of other languages easier.

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